Gambling IQ Commentary On the Bodog Fiasco

[The General]

In talking with my son at Vincennes Univ. he stated many of the kids down there he has talked with like to play at Bodog, esp poker, but I let him know to spread the word about the situation at hand.

[Dirty]

Bump

[Brunhuber]

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[Dirty]

That would be great Brun... I need to write a follow up piece, but there is just so damn much and it would be everywhere at the moment...best thing is to just keep this one bumped up I guess

[Dirty]

From SBR...they are making Progress

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[The General]

We have to hope for the best with Bodog because it would be a huge detriment to the entire on line gaming world should they become the next BOS. I hope they are somehow able to get this train wreck awaiting repaired for lack of better term. We have witnessed that the US Govt does not give a chit about the players and will take down this business and harm 1000's of their own people if they can.

[Dirty]

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QUOTE(Peep @ Sep 24 2008, 02:40 PM) I trust JoshW at SBR, I have worked with him and been in contact with him for years. He used to post as Lakerfan. If he says he can get people paid, I believe him. We all know Calvin is a crook and full of it, but that is no reason not to help players get paid. It isn't just Ayre who is the crook. The whole management culture is one of sleaze! http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/wor....html&st=90 Peter Karroll, Jim Phillips, Arron Gould, lawyer Bryce and even Peter's daughter Riley are seedy characters....crooks.... I'll save the expletives since everyone else has done a good enough job with that. Plus, these people make themselves look bad on a daily basis just fine. Anyone doing business with these people should know they do not honor contracts and if they do pay up it is like pulling teeth. I have personally seen them hire developers to create their entire back end software to run one of their sites and then turn around and screw them out of tens of thousands of dollars in pay. -------------------------------------------------------- I'm sure JoshW is a good man. Who benefits the most by having JoshW report that one person has been paid?

[Wise Guy]

Originally Posted by Brunhuber

This Wise- guy is a wise guy!

Thanx Brunhuber. I’m glad you liked my post. In their defense, EOG has allowed the many negative posts about Bodog to remain available for reading in the EOG forums. So props to The Shrink.

For those who dispair of ever getting their money from Bodog, there is a glimmer of hope, although the light gets dimmer with each passing month. I have been attempting to get my funds out of Bodog for a long time, and I was receiving payments from time to time in 2007 and early 2008. In April 2008, I requested (and was approved for) my last payout (an amount under $3,000) from Bodog. And I just received that cheque via Fed Ex. So, the actual time required to receive a payout from Bodog is now 5 calendar months (April to September in my case).

Do not for one minute believe the bs that Bodog will try to feed you about 40 business days. That is just silly. Nobody gets a cheque payout from Bodog in 40 business days in the Autumn of 2008. For all of you who are lurking in the GIQ forums and have money at Bodog, begin to demand your money now. You do not want to get caught up in the mad dash for the exits after Superbowl. If Bodog is still in business in March 2009, you can expect to wait a minimum of 6 calendar months for your money.

To all lurkers, be aware that Dirty and the General are telling you the absolute truth. We all hope that Bodog gets rid of its present management, consolidates operations in either Antigua or Costa Rica and gets their act together, but don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. There are lots of good books out there that will not slow pay you and stiff you. Just click on "sportsbooks" at the top of the home page at GIQ for more information.

I am a real person. I am a real gambler. And I have bookmaking experience in Las Vegas. I have no ax to grind. I am simply telling you that Bodog is (at present) one huge mess that you want no association with.

P.S.: I hope the cheque doesn't bounce because I already sent that money to Pinnacle.

[Dirty]

Originally Posted by Wise Guy

Thanx Brunhuber. I’m glad you liked my post. In their defense, EOG has allowed the many negative posts about Bodog to remain available for reading in the EOG forums. So props to The Shrink.

For those who dispair of ever getting their money from Bodog, there is a glimmer of hope, although the light gets dimmer with each passing month. I have been attempting to get my funds out of Bodog for a long time, and I was receiving payments from time to time in 2007 and early 2008. In April 2008, I requested (and was approved for) my last payout (an amount under $3,000) from Bodog. And I just received that cheque via Fed Ex. So, the actual time required to receive a payout from Bodog is now 5 calendar months (April to September in my case).

Do not for one minute believe the bs that Bodog will try to feed you about 40 business days. That is just silly. Nobody gets a cheque payout from Bodog in 40 business days in the Autumn of 2008. For all of you who are lurking in the GIQ forums and have money at Bodog, begin to demand your money now. You do not want to get caught up in the mad dash for the exits after Superbowl. If Bodog is still in business in March 2009, you can expect to wait a minimum of 6 calendar months for your money.

To all lurkers, be aware that Dirty and the General are telling you the absolute truth. We all hope that Bodog gets rid of its present management, consolidates operations in either Antigua or Costa Rica and gets their act together, but don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. There are lots of good books out there that will not slow pay you and stiff you. Just click on "sportsbooks" at the top of the home page at GIQ for more information.

I am a real person. I am a real gambler. And I have bookmaking experience in Las Vegas. I have no ax to grind. I am simply telling you that Bodog is (at present) one huge mess that you want no association with.

P.S.: I hope the cheque doesn't bounce because I already sent that money to Pinnacle.

Thanks for the kind words Bud... and I am so glad you finally got your money... Great post and thank you for it.

[Dirty]

I would like to add to my other post...

I wish the hell this whole thread was not true..... makes me sick to think about it....


On our Sportsbooks here ... you will not find a Book Rated under a B on the Ratings at Sportsbook Review except for One.

They are Heroes sportsbook and they are brand new, but their Casino is A Rated at Several Respected places and after their book is open a while they will be as well.

They are ran by people who Used to be owners at Oasis Casino and have very deep pockets. Oasis is one of the Most Well funded places and highly respected in the Industry

[Brunhuber]

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[Dirty]

Somebody needs to tell the posters at TOW to please read somewhere that is not protecting the people pulling the shenanigans at Bodog. That place is a sinking ship.

Brunhuber as long as the attacks are not personal and you post factual information with the proper proof nothing will ever be said about it.

We just will not put up with the He/said she said BS..but what you have been posting is fine IMO.

[Dirty]

pier0 at OGD




It will be interesting to see what kind of presence Bodog will have this year at CAP Euro (later this week in Barcelona). They generally have the biggest booth and throw the nicest parties, but I haven't heard anything from them so far this year.


They didn't have a booth or any kind of presence at the show. As a matter of fact two of their former affiliate managers that were generally representating the company at the European shows were in Barcelona today, but without a job.

From what I've heard in the last few days Malta and the UK said no to Bodog (again), so I guess their move to Europe doesn't look too good.


Gambling IQ Commentary On the Bodog Fiasco - OGD

[Brunhuber]

Bodog Poker Open II Starts Sunday as Customers Wait Months to be Paid


Submitted by Payton on Thu, 09/25/2008 - 23:10.

Go to most online poker and sports betting forums, chances are you will find tons of threads discussing how people have been waiting months to get paid by Bodog.
Yet Bodog, once a superior online gambling website well represented on Gambling911.com, has started to promote its Bodog Poker Open II and how some lucky players can win a $30,000-guaranteed at this no-limit hold'em event.
While a number of online gambling websites have had well publicized processing issues, Bodog has had a significant amount of its funds seized by the US Government. They have also routinely lied to vendors and affiliates alike regarding their cash flow issues.
Fortunately there are new processing companies coming onto the scene who have chosen to conduct business with only a select few companies. Unfortunately for Bodog, they are not one of the select few as they have been deemed "untrustworthy" in recent months.
Bodog does have a new deposit method they are pushing. They just can't pay out using the same method. Hence, the reason many affiliates are now reporting 50 percent conversion rates this month. The problem is, these customers may not keep playing.
Microgaming recently passed Bodog in the rankings of "real cash" online poker rooms. Bodog continues to drop - now listed number 14 of poker players in the world and 7th of those that take US players.
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Payton O'Brien, Gambling911.com Senior Editor

[Dirty]

Amazing anyone would send money to play Poker there with Fulltilt, PokerStars, Party Poker, Doyles room, et al... all having Tournaments with higher payouts and they don't have the feds breathing down their necks.....

I used to get 1-2 emails a month from Bodog and now I get 3-4 a week :idk

[Wise Guy]

Originally Posted by Dirty

Amazing anyone would send money to play Poker there with Fulltilt, PokerStars, Party Poker, Doyles room, et al... all having Tournaments with higher payouts and they don't have the feds breathing down their necks

I think that I have the answer to that question. Bodog is doing the same thing that many previous failing books engaged in. All sorts of marketing press releases are flooding out from Bodog. And lots of folks do not read posting forums, so when they hear about these super giveaways, they call Bodog and send their money off to Bodog.

I was listening to a very popular horse race show today in Las Vegas. One of the co-hosts mentioned a super duper freebee available from Bodog. Something that sounded almost too good to be true. So, instead of correcting their problems, Bodog is trying to bring in new money from folks who know nothing about other poker rooms, know nothing about posting forums, are new to the world of offshore betting, etc. (you get the idea).

I fired off a quick e-mail to the folks on this radio show and advised them that it would not be wise to ever mention Bodog because when Bodog fails, they don't want listeners associating the radio show with the permanent disappearance of all post-up funds.

[The General]

Forum people (even occasional readers) know to be careful, but many sign-ups will come from INTERNET users just finding a nice banner and sign-up unknowing of the issues at hand. Younger, newer bettors in particular.

[Dirty]

Originally Posted by Wise Guy

I think that I have the answer to that question. Bodog is doing the same thing that many previous failing books engaged in. All sorts of marketing press releases are flooding out from Bodog. And lots of folks do not read posting forums, so when they hear about these super giveaways, they call Bodog and send their money off to Bodog.

I was listening to a very popular horse race show today in Las Vegas. One of the co-hosts mentioned a super duper freebee available from Bodog. Something that sounded almost too good to be true. So, instead of correcting their problems, Bodog is trying to bring in new money from folks who know nothing about other poker rooms, know nothing about posting forums, are new to the world of offshore betting, etc. (you get the idea).

I fired off a quick e-mail to the folks on this radio show and advised them that it would not be wise to ever mention Bodog because when Bodog fails, they don't want listeners associating the radio show with the permanent disappearance of all post-up funds.

You did your part Wise Guy

[Dirty]

can't let this get too far down

[Dirty]

BodogLife.com Complaints Mount: Slow Pays Continue

Submitted by C Costigan on Tue, 09/30/2008 - 10:35.

Customers are getting paid albeit slowly....very slowly. As Gambling911.com continues to report, BodogLife.com (Bodog) continues to suffer from processing woes that have hit the entire online gambling sector hard in recent years. But Bodog, which had a large chunk of its money seized by the Department of Justice this summer, has had an especially tough time of late.
"Processors won't go near Bodog," one industry source told Gambling911.
Much of the industry has been working with smaller processors who are taking on clients via a referral basis. Some are able to handle mid to large size operations. Bodog is considered a large operation by industry standards.
For its part, BodogLife.com has been able to find new outlets for deposit methods. Online gambling affiliates reported upwards of 50 percent conversion rates over the lsat month.
The problem: Retaining these customers. Bodog Poker, as an example, continues to lose market share. The industry's second largest online poker room, Full Tilt Poker, now has 10 times the number of active real cash players on average.
In recent months, Sports Book Review, has dropped its rating on Bodog from "A" to "C" and is said to be considering another downgrade.
"At this point Bodog is simply telling us that everyone is in line for payout and they will pay as fast as their processors can put out payments. Unless a player has made person to person transfers as the primary deposit method, and is a long time customer, p2p isn't being offered as a withdrawal payout," the website reports.Customers on that site have pointed to a method for receiving a more rapid payout, though they warn of steep fees associated with that option.
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Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.com Publisher


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